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Tubby
07-09-2005, 10:29 AM
Hurricane Dennis
The Hurricane is still 200+ miles South of us and when I left the house early today. Many palm branches are down a medium size tree just past our gate house, two intersections the lights were not working, on I-75 the ramp South bound was closed a mail truck either over turned or was blown over.
The storm is projected to stay in the Gulf, but we all know the "BAD SIDE" is where we are located. So we will be getting hit with the outer bands most of today and evening hours.
Admin
07-15-2005, 11:49 PM
Tonights news is reporting three storms forming off the African Coast. At least we don't have to worry about Emily.
RECONDO
07-17-2005, 11:15 PM
felling the effects in New Jersey all day
Tubby
07-18-2005, 06:29 PM
felling the effects in New Jersey all day
Should help the tomato's grow.
You only feel the real effect when you spend days putting up hurricane shutters and fastening everything down. Then like a sitting duck, you wait to see where the storm will go.
OK, so I don't have to spend days, we installed roll up shutters on most of the house, takes two minutes to close all the roll ups. However before that I spend about 2 hours putting up aluminum panels on the remaining 10 windows.
RECONDO
07-20-2005, 07:31 PM
Good Exercise For Us Old Men
Tubby
07-20-2005, 08:50 PM
Good Exercise For Us Old Men
You remember you are getting old, the day after. Even though it only takes us a few hours to get the house ready, we end up helping the neighbors.
Tubby
08-02-2005, 06:02 PM
NOAA indicated today we might see as many as 21 tropical storms and 11 hurricanes this year. :(
The alphabet used by the National Hurricane Center to name storms includes 21 letters. If there are 22 storms, it would begin using the Greek alphabet, such as Hurricane Alpha. :rolleyes:
We are now in the peak of hurricane season from August 1 to late October, could be a rough few months ahead. :mad:
NOAA indicated today we might see as many as 21 tropical storms and 11 hurricanes this year. :(
The alphabet used by the National Hurricane Center to name storms includes 21 letters. If there are 22 storms, it would begin using the Greek alphabet, such as Hurricane Alpha. :rolleyes:
We are now in the peak of hurricane season from August 1 to late October, could be a rough few months ahead. :mad:
Stock up the liquor cabinet now! The L store is the first one to sell out when a hurricane approaches :)
d-o-b
08-03-2005, 12:12 PM
Stock up the liquor cabinet now! The L store is the first one to sell out when a hurricane approaches :)
don't forget the chocolate....
Tubby
08-23-2005, 07:03 PM
Looks like we need to keep our eyes on #12, the current projected track shows #12 heading in our location.
Add projected track
Tubby
08-23-2005, 07:24 PM
A day we will all remember:
August 24, 1992 Hurricane Andrew hits South Florida.
Its hard to believe tomorrow will be 13 years.
Best Teach
08-23-2005, 11:07 PM
A day we will all remember:
August 24, 1992 Hurricane Andrew hits South Florida.
Its hard to believe tomorrow will be 13 years.
Oh, it seems like yesterday to me. I am forever traumatized because of that. The house was literally crumbling around us and we had to take cover in the garage. By some miracle, our garage door didn't fly off like about 80% of our neighbors. We were out of our home for a year, no electricity for months--it sucked! That is something I don't ever want to go through again.
d-o-b
08-24-2005, 07:41 AM
Get ready, we are going to have a Tropical Storm tomorrow.
"A "tropical storm warning could be issued for portions of the tropical storm watch area in Florida later today ... possibly including a hurricane watch, if the depression strengthens more rapidly than currently forecast," the National Hurricane Center said.
Potentially, the storm could intensify into a minimal hurricane before it reaches the state."
I just went to the liquor store last weekend so I am stocked up for any storm ;)
Get ready, we are going to have a Tropical Storm tomorrow.
Tropical Storm Katrina Advisory Number 4
Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on August 24, 2005
...Depression strengthens into Tropical Storm Katrina over the
central Bahamas...
...Hurricane Watch and Tropical Storm Warning issued for Florida...
at 11 am EDT...1500z...a Tropical Storm Warning and a Hurricane
Watch have been issued for the Southeast Florida coast from Vero
Beach southward to Florida City. This replaces the tropical storm
watch. A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are
possible within the watch area...generally within 36 hours.
A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the central and
northwest Bahamas. A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical
storm conditions are expected within the warning area within the
next 24 hours.
A tropical storm watch remains in effect for the middle and upper
Florida Keys from west of the Seven Mile Bridge northward to south
of Florida City. A tropical storm watch means that tropical storm
conditions are possible within the watch area...generally within 36
hours.
A watch or warning may be required for Lake Okeechobee later today.
A Hurricane Warning may be required for portions of the northwest
Bahamas later today.
For storm information specific to your area...including possible
inland watches and warnings...please monitor products issued
by your local weather office.
At 11 am EDT...1500z...the center of Tropical Storm Katrina was
located near latitude 24.7 north... longitude 76.7 west or about 50
miles... 80 km... east-southeast of Nassau and about 230 miles...
375 km...east-southeast of southeast coast of Florida.
Katrina is moving toward the north-northwest near 8 mph
...13 km/hr. A gradual turn toward the northwest at a slightly
slower forward speed is expected to occur later today. This motion
should bring the center through the central and northwest Bahamas
later today and tonight.
Earlier reports from an Air Force Reserve reconnaissance aircraft
indicated maximum sustained winds had increased to near 40 mph...
65 km/hr...with higher gusts. Additional strengthening is forecast
during the next 24 hours.
Tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 70 miles
...110 km...mainly east of the center.
The estimated minimum central pressure is 1006 mb...29.71 inches.
Due to its slow forward speed...Katrina is expected to produce a
significant heavy rainfall event over the central and northwest
Bahamas...and South Florida... with total rainfall accumulations of
6 to 12 inches and isolated maximum amounts of 15 to 20 inches
possible.
Storm surge flooding of 3 to 5 feet above normal tide levels...
along with large and dangerous battering waves... can be expected
near the center in areas of onshore winds in the Bahamas.
Repeating the 11 am EDT position...24.7 N... 76.7 W. Movement
toward...north-northwest near 8 mph. Maximum sustained
winds... 40 mph. Minimum central pressure...1006 mb.
An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National
Hurricane Center at 2 PM EDT followed by the next complete
advisory at 5 PM EDT.
Forecaster Stewart
$$
d-o-b
08-24-2005, 12:30 PM
what a pain in the ass.... no time for shutters!!!
Tubby
08-24-2005, 06:42 PM
KATRINA ADVISORY #1: County Activates Emergency Operations Center; Schools and County Government to Close Thursday
8/24/2005 5:11:21 PM
DATE: August 24, 2005
MEDIA CONTACT: Judy Sarver, Director, Broward County Public Communications Office
Broward County is currently under a tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch as a result of Tropical Storm Katrina. Residents should immediately take protective actions to secure their homes and implement their hurricane plan.
Broward County expects deteriorating weather conditions beginning tomorrow and continuing through Friday with possible hurricane force winds expected in 24 hours. Katrina is expected to make landfall late Thursday night/early Friday morning.
Broward County Mayor Kristin Jacobs announced at a 5 p.m. press conference that the Broward County Emergency Operations Center will be fully activated effective Thursday, August 25, at 8 a.m. in response to the storm threat. Broward County Government offices will be closed on Thursday. Emergency personnel should report to their assigned duties as directed by their supervisors. Broward County buses and Paratransit services for transportation will remain operational until 12 noon tomorrow. Broward County public schools will also be closed tomorrow.
A recommended evacuation for the Barrier Island has been issued effective Thursday, August 25 at 8:00 a.m. This includes all residents living east of the Intracoastal Waterway. A three to five-foot storm surge is expected. Residents in low-lying areas that are prone to flooding and residents living in mobile homes are included in the recommended evacuation and should take precautions.
All 12 Red Cross shelters will be opened tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. for residents and visitors that need to evacuate and do not have a safe place to relocate. Shelters are refuges of last resort and provide only basic accommodations. Residents are encouraged to evacuate to homes of friends or family whenever possible.
The Broward County Hurricane Hot Line has been activated will have extended hours this evening until 7:30 p.m. Telephone number: 954-831-4000. The Hot Line will reopen at 7:00 a.m. on Thursday and remain operational until further notice.
Broward County will closely monitor the situation and will advise residents of any future protective actions that may be necessary. Residents can visit the Broward County web site at www.broward.org for information on Tropical Storm Katrina.
Storms positioned in this area of the Caribbean have a history of rapid development and conditions could quickly change. Katrina is a slow moving storm with the potential to intensify. Residents are strongly advised to stay tuned to television and radio for advisories and recommended protective actions to take.
Recommended Protective Actions for Residents:
Secure all loose objects around the homes such as lawn chairs, plants, debris, etc.
• Lower pools in preparation for heavy rains.
• Clean swale areas to assist with drainage.
• Boaters should secure their boats for strong winds.
• During the storm pets should not be left outside.
• Make sure you have necessary food and medical supplies in case of power outages.
Tubby
08-24-2005, 06:46 PM
Broward County Government Offices will be closed on Thursday.
Broward County buses and Paratransit services for transportation will remain operational until 12 noon tomorrow.
Broward County Public Schools will be closed on Thursday, August 25 and Friday, August 26.
Broward County Behavioral Health Resource Fair, planned for Thursday, August 25 at the War Memorial Auditorium in Fort Lauderdale, has been canceled.
Tubby
08-25-2005, 06:59 PM
As the eye is getting closer, Advance cable is losing the battle. Our cable is going on and off, only staying on for a few seconds at a time. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Internet is also going on and off, I finally switch to a dial up connection (not thats slow). :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Tubby
08-25-2005, 08:28 PM
So far the highest wind speed my weather station recorded @ 7:05pm 38 MPH. Looks like the eye will pass just south of us.
Hilly
08-25-2005, 09:02 PM
Good luck and best wishes down there everyone.
Tubby
08-25-2005, 09:09 PM
Highest winds 46 mph, we've lost a few trees already.
So far the highest wind speed my weather station recorded @ 7:05pm 38 MPH. Looks like the eye will pass just south of us.
Ever notice that the wind meter at the Weston BSO station is always way off. It was showing wind speed of 5 to 10 mph when it was howling outside.
Our cable is off and on, power is flickering, but internet is A- Ok running on a batter backup :)
As the eye is getting closer, Advance cable is losing the battle. Our cable is going on and off, only staying on for a few seconds at a time. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Internet is also going on and off, I finally switch to a dial up connection (not thats slow).
...running on a batter backup :)
pancake or waffle? :D
Tubby
08-25-2005, 10:20 PM
Our cable is off and on, power is flickering, but internet is A- Ok running on a batter backup :)
I'm watching a small 4" color TV w/rabbit ears and using dial up. :(
Tubby
08-25-2005, 10:23 PM
Ever notice that the wind meter at the Weston BSO station is always way off. It was showing wind speed of 5 to 10 mph when it was howling outside.
I wish I could mount mine in a different location, I do not get a good reading from the south.
pancake or waffle? :D waffle with blueberry syrup!
Check out some of the current wind speeds at the sea buoys. It is blow'n like stink. If you have ever been out on open water when it's really blowing it looks like smoke because the white caps get blown off and makes a mist over the water. Note that most of the oil platforms in the direct path are no longer giving readings which is a bad sign.
http://seaboard.ndbc.noaa.gov/Maps/WestGulf.shtml
d-o-b
08-28-2005, 10:27 PM
this (http://www.nola.com/hurricane/content/katrina_projected_flooding082805.pdf) is scary!!!!!!
Donna
08-29-2005, 03:39 PM
Looks like New Orleans was spared a direct hit at least. Last I saw on the Weather Channel an apartment building had collapsed and they did not know how many people were trapped.
I have been glued to the TV tonight watching the hurricane devastation coverage. It is like watching a train wreck, you just can't help but look. Those people will be suffering for a very long time.
Looks like New Orleans was spared a direct hit at least. Last I saw on the Weather Channel an apartment building had collapsed and they did not know how many people were trapped.
d-o-b
08-30-2005, 10:24 PM
What pissed me off are the looters!!! I hope somebody starts shooting them soon!!!!!!
Donna
08-30-2005, 10:52 PM
I thought New Orleans was lucky to escape the worst of the storm, but now they are 80% flooded out due to levee breaks. It looks like they will have to evacuate the rest of the city.
I agree, d-o-b, I would be tempted to allow police to shoot the looters. Stealing food you need to survive is one thing, but people were looting jewelry and clothing stores. I saw on TV someone pushing an entire rack of groceries they stole.
Best Teach
08-30-2005, 11:34 PM
The news is devastating; my hubby has asked me to stop watching as to not further upset myself and my unborn little one. But like Toad said, I just can't help but watch. It is heartbreaking to say the least.
One of our ships is berthed in the river in NOLA and is giving us reports on the city. They will likely try to make it out before they too run out of food and fresh water without loading, but all the aids to navigation in the river are gone or under water. The city and the river all look the same. Economically NOLA can be erased from the map. :(
I have watched hours of CNN coverage of the disaster in NOLA and have a few observations:
1. The true character of the citizens is showing through. When times are tough, they are out looting for a new TV and pair of Nikes instead of helping their neighbors. Maybe it is their French heritage?
2. The city, state, and Corps of Eng. should of had a plan for such a contingency, but they are now throwing around ideas of how to repair the two breached levies. What a display of incompetence.
3. In though times you find out who you friends are. Thanks go to Houston who are letting the refugees use the Astrodome. Where are all the international sources of aid?
4. The relief effort seems to be slow, inadequate, and unprepared. The police in the video are just standing there with no resources, there is little evidence of the national guard, and supplies are not being distributed. There is an evacuation order but no systematic plan. There are lots of talking heads on CNN, but little help to those in need.
God help those poor souls!
Donna
08-31-2005, 05:00 PM
Regarding Toad's points.....
1. Agreed. However, we had the same here after Hurricane Andrew with looters and price gougers. Remember the absurd prices people were getting for bags of ice? We will see incredibly bad and wonderfully good people both.
2. This is incomprehensible. It never crossed their minds they could have a break in the levee sysytem? Considering how far they are below sea level that should have been an obvious item to consider.
3. Using the Astrodome was a great idea. "International help" always ticks me off. We're first to help everyone, ally or not. When we are in need, it seems other countries cover their ears and eyes.
4. Perfectly stated.
May God have mercy on their souls.
Regarding Toad's points.....
1. Agreed. However, we had the same here after Hurricane Andrew with looters and price gougers. Remember the absurd prices people were getting for bags of ice? We will see incredibly bad and wonderfully good people both.
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Note the vastly different behavior in Mississippi and Alabama.
It is now getting too painful to watch the disaster coverage. If I hear one more "official" say that the storm has caused their communications to fail I am going to scream!!! What do they think happens in a hurricane? No power, no phone, no water,... duhh. What a bunch of ass clowns :mad:
Non Member
09-01-2005, 06:25 PM
Note the vastly different behavior in Mississippi and Alabama.
Did they only build low-income housing in the flood-prone areas?
Yesterday I saw houses the equivalent of Windmill Ranches that were 3/4 of the way to roof with water in NOLA. The difference in those pictures were there were no people to be seen. They evacuated as they were told before the storm hit.
Did they only build low-income housing in the flood-prone areas?
Have you seen the how they are trying to repair the levies? They are dropping sandbags one load at a time with helicopters! Why don't they use a barge with a crane to place solid material (rock, gravel, etc)? It will take forever to do it one chopper load at a time. I think the whole situation is what is commonly known as a cluster *uck.
Non Member
09-01-2005, 07:23 PM
Yesterday I saw houses the equivalent of Windmill Ranches that were 3/4 of the way to roof with water in NOLA. The difference in those pictures were there were no people to be seen. They evacuated as they were told before the storm hit.
They had cars and gas. The refugees are those left behind.
Why are they trying to rebuild? To see it destroyed again?
Non Member
09-01-2005, 07:25 PM
What an opportunity for a terrorist attack.
d-o-b
09-01-2005, 07:58 PM
Did they only build low-income housing in the flood-prone areas?
keep in mind that the poverty level in New Orleans is around 30-40%
d-o-b
09-01-2005, 08:00 PM
Why don't they use a barge with a crane to place solid material (rock, gravel, etc)? .
I heard they already thought about it, but the problem is the draft lost, there is so much debris in the water that not even a flat barge would make.
You are absolutely right. Until yesterday we could not get US Coast Guard to say anything on the radio regarding vessel movements. Any terrorist can come up the river at will. Tomorrow they are bringing a 34 ft draft military up the river, but still it is easy pickings.
What an opportunity for a terrorist attack.
The suffering and misery has been bad enough, now Rick Sanchez is there. Please Lord give these people a break!
Tubby
09-18-2005, 07:59 AM
time to start watching TD18
d-o-b
09-18-2005, 08:45 AM
here we go again.....
Tubby
09-18-2005, 05:08 PM
A Hurricane Watch Is In Effect For All Of The Florida Keys From
Ocean Reef Southward And Westward To Dry Tortugas...including
Florida Bay.
Tubby
09-18-2005, 05:21 PM
Sunday 9/18/05 @ 2:30pm Rain
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS ORDERED A MANDATORY EVACUATION FOR VISITORS AND NON-RESIDENTS FROM THE SEVEN MILE BRIDGE TO KEY WEST STARTING AT NOON TODAY.
RECREATIONAL VEHICLES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE KEYS MUST LEAVE TODAY.
COUNTY PARKS AND STATE PARKS WILL CLOSE TODAY.
TOLLS ON CARD SOUND ROAD ARE SUSPENDED.
RESIDENTS IN MOBILE HOMES AND IN LOW-LYING AREAS SHOULD PREPARE NOW FOR POSSIBLE EVACUATION.
RESIDENTS SHOULD INSTALL HURRICANE SHUTTERS IMMEDIATELY. SECURE
LOOSE OBJECTS WHICH MAY BE BLOWN ABOUT.
MONROE COUNTY SCHOOLS WILL BE CLOSED MONDAY AND TUESDAY. COUNTY OFFICES WILL CLOSE AT NOON MONDAY. MUNICIPAL OFFICES MAY FOLLOW SUIT.
I checked the liquor supply and I'm good to go. Bring it on!
Tubby
09-18-2005, 10:10 PM
Sunday 8:00PM 9/18/05 Rain
A TROPICAL STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE EXTREME
SOUTHEASTERN FLORIDA PENINSULA FROM DEERFIELD BEACH SOUTHWARD TO
FLORIDA CITY AND CONTINUING WESTWARD TO EAST CAPE SABLE. THE WATCH
AREA WILL LIKELY BE UPGRADED TO A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND
POSSIBLY A HURRICANE WATCH LATER TONIGHT.
d-o-b
09-18-2005, 10:24 PM
crap, crap crap!!! :mad:
Best Teach
09-19-2005, 02:52 PM
Are you guys putting up your shutters??
dianepmny
09-19-2005, 02:57 PM
Oh crap. The last time I saw updates on Fox News Channel was last night and the predicted path was way far south.
Has the cone of uncertainty been extended far northward?
I know that my nephews were hoping for no school in the next few days, but this sucks.
d-o-b
09-19-2005, 03:03 PM
Are you guys putting up your shutters??
sure hope we don't have to
dianepmny
09-19-2005, 03:05 PM
I just put Fox News Channel on again.
It's still projected to pass pretty far south, thank goodness. The bad news is that it is now projected to strike the Texas coasts, possibly Houston and there's also a possibility that it could again hit Louisiana. Yikes!
Donna
09-19-2005, 03:20 PM
Broward county schools are closed tomorrow. I just finished putting up my my mother in law's shutters. I've been out in our backyard picking lemons off the tree as it barely made it through the last two storms. It almost uprooted during Katrina and the lemons were much smaller a couple weeks ago. They are close to ripe now and I'm afraid the extra weight (top heavy) isn't a good thing. I now have 5 bags of lemons and I'm not done.
I caught a few minutes of Bryan Norcross and he was saying it could be a category 3 when it goes through the Keys. Our concern here is how far south it is of us, as the north side is the nasty side of the storm.
Tubby
09-19-2005, 09:09 PM
Are you guys putting up your shutters??
I put mine up. Rain
I put mine up. Rain
Thanks for putting up your shutters. It seems to have kept the storm to the south for us Whoo
Non Member
09-20-2005, 11:08 AM
. I just finished putting up my my mother in law's shutters. .
Donna,
Your good karma extended all over South Florida. Thank you. :D
Tubby
09-20-2005, 11:31 AM
I'm not a good example for putting up shutter, most of the house is on rollups and it only takes about 1 1/2 hr to put up the aluminum panels on 10 of the smaller windows.
Thanks for putting up your shutters. It seems to have kept the storm to the south for us Whoo
Donna,
Your good karma extended all over South Florida. Thank you. :D
I was chanting "dome dome" or was it "doom doom"? Doh
Donna
09-20-2005, 12:14 PM
Many years ago, the weather folks thought a storm was to miss us and then at the last minute changed their minds. I still remember how fun it was putting up shutters with my Dad in the pouring rain with all that wind. Now I like to be prepared for any turn and have them up even if it turns out not needed.
I was surprised that BCC, Nova, FAU all were having classes today when the county officials kept telling everyone to stay home and off the roads. I had an appointment with a client who teaches at BCC this morning. I left him a message that I needed to reschedule. I didn't want to drive if it got bad.
Tubby
09-20-2005, 03:22 PM
WARNING ......
Channel 6 is indicating we will be getting hit with a strong band within the next 30 mins. Tornadoes could also be inside of the band. (ends around 3:00pm)
d-o-b
09-20-2005, 03:36 PM
WARNING ......
Channel 6 is indicating we will be getting hit with a strong band within the next 30 mins. Tornadoes could also be inside of the band. (ends around 3:00pm)
shit I better go home...
shit I better go home...
I can't believe the post office is closed today. What ever happened to ...rain, sleet, snow and the black of night..? I guess they are not big on creeds here. Rain
Donna
09-20-2005, 03:50 PM
Their slogan here is "I get paid no matter what, so forget it."
Tubby
09-20-2005, 06:06 PM
Get ready Texas, Rita is coming your way as a category 4. Now you need to move the people from New Orleans and your own residents.
Get ready Texas, Rita is coming your way as a category 4. Now you need to move the people from New Orleans and your own residents.
Rita is moving west at 15 mph or three times the speed of FEMA :D
I can't believe the post office is closed today. What ever happened to ...rain, sleet, snow and the black of night..? I guess they are not big on creeds here. Rain
Thanks goodness, the mall was open and so was Costco and Target. :)
d-o-b
09-20-2005, 10:48 PM
Thanks goodness, the mall was open and so was Costco and Target. :)
yeah but my boss didn't know that!!! :mad:
Get ready Texas, Rita is coming your way as a category 4. Now you need to move the people from New Orleans and your own residents.
Notice how TX is preparing with buses to move people who can't move themselves. It is a completely different picture than how NOLA prepared. Makes you go hmmmmm.
d-o-b
09-21-2005, 12:14 PM
Notice how TX is preparing with buses to move people who can't move themselves. It is a completely different picture than how NOLA prepared. Makes you go hmmmmm.
you mean, makes the New Orleans mayor look like an ASS???? ohhh yeah!!!
you mean, makes the New Orleans mayor look like an ASS???? ohhh yeah!!!
I was actually thinking more about the LA Gov. I've never seen an official start crying before at a time they should be stepping up to the plate.
Notice how TX is preparing with buses to move people who can't move themselves. It is a completely different picture than how NOLA prepared. Makes you go hmmmmm.
I'm sure they are more prepared. But how could they not be after the fiasco in NO....
The only good that can really come out of the bungled NO plans, is that maybe states will put a little bit more effort into their own plans and the federal government will realize that they need some work in their ability to step into a disaster on our own soil.
I was actually thinking more about the LA Gov. I've never seen an official start crying before at a time they should be stepping up to the plate.
Hey - there's no crying in baseball!
Hey - there's no crying in baseball!
Can you imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger crying at a press conference? I think she disgraced her whole gender.
Best Teach
09-21-2005, 05:26 PM
Can you imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger crying at a press conference? I think she disgraced her whole gender.
Well, I think the biggest problem with most men can be summed up in your comment. There is nothing wrong w/ crying...if more men would allow themselves to feel and express their emotions the world would be a lot more peaceful and men wouldn't be keeling over from heart attacks and stroke as much. But, I digress...I do agree that she cracked when she should have stepped up to the plate as you stated. I saw on the news today that she said that hopefully the storm (Rita) would "dissipate." WTF??
happydad
09-21-2005, 05:30 PM
Can you imagine Arnold Schwarzenegger crying at a press conference? I think she disgraced her whole gender.
Arnold, who groped women while as a bodybuilder and actor is not a disgrace to his gender?
We see where you set your standards. :rolleyes:
Arnold, who groped women while as a bodybuilder and actor is not a disgrace to his gender?
We see where you set your standards. :rolleyes:
I would agree that my standards can be low on some topics, but are you defending the LA Governor as a role model of female leaders?
Maybe Arnold was a bad example. Could you imagine back when Bob Dole was in office if he started crying on TV. Nono
happydad
09-21-2005, 05:43 PM
I would agree that my standards can be low on some topics, but are you defending the LA Governor as a role model of female leaders?
Maybe Arnold was a bad example. Could you imagine back when Bob Dole was in office if he started crying on TV. Nono
It would have made more sense if you used Golda Meir or Margaret Thatcher as an comparison. But IMO, any women that attains a leadership role like she has deserves a lot more credit than you want to give her - even if she cried on TV.
But don't ask me, I cry at Kleenex commercials. :)
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Donna
09-21-2005, 07:30 PM
The displaced NO folks in Houston must be about ready to cry. They are being sent to Arkansas. Can you even imagine getting hit with another monster hurricane after they lost everthing in NO? I read that the levees aren't all that stable and they are praying they don't have the city flooded again.
The evacuations in TX seem to be going smoothly. I guess with a 165 mile an hour storm coming your way, you are eager to cooperate and get out. They are letting these people take their pets on the buses which I thought was great.
Donna
09-21-2005, 07:33 PM
I just read that Rita has gusts to 200 mph. :(
But don't ask me, I cry at Kleenex commercials. :)
I cry at Publix Commercials
I cry at Publix Commercials
I cry when I pay the bills.
I cry when I pay the bills.
My mom has always worn dillaboppers when paying bills. I've never seen her cry. :D
A picture say a thousand words:
Hilly
09-22-2005, 04:29 PM
Here's an interesting story out today on hurricane names running out!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050922/ap_on_re_us/hurricane_names_1
Mexicans Living on Texas Gulf Hurry Home
By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ
Associated Press Writer
Posted September 22 2005, 11:03 PM EDT
NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico -- Hundreds of Mexicans living on the Texas Gulf Coast were rushing home Thursday to avoid Hurricane Rita, while authorities in northern Mexico readied shelters and prepared for heavy rains.
Nuevo Leon state tourism director Jorge Cantu said Monterrey hotels are lowering rates 20 to 30 percent for people fleeing the Texas Gulf Coast.
In Nuevo Laredo, across from Laredo, Texas, Mexican families coming from Houston, Galveston, South Padre Island, Corpus Christi and Pasadena, Texas, waited in long lines to get temporary import permits for their cars.
Thousands of Mexicans live and work in Texas, but still have family -- or even second homes -- in Mexico. With Rita bearing down on the Gulf coast, many felt it was time to go home, at least for a week or so.
Moises Ramirez was one of hundreds crossing into Mexico on Thursday. A carpenter and home owner from Pasadena, Texas, he left behind his job and house to stay with his parents in Monclova, 440 miles southwest of Pasadena.
Traveling with six relatives, Ramirez said he worried about what he would have to come back to, but he wasn't ready to risk staying in the storm's path.
"What happened in New Orleans could also happen there," he said, referring to Texas.
Nuevo Laredo authorities said families crossing from Texas started coming to the border city late Wednesday, and by Thursday morning more than 1,000 people had crossed into Mexico.
"Hearing Rita was one of the most powerful hurricanes in the history of the Gulf was enough for me to leave," said Roberto Garcia, who left his home in Corpus Christi and was heading to a suburb of Monterrey, where his family lives.
The influx of Mexicans fleeing the Texas Gulf Coast was expected to increase, and authorities were adding customs agents and personnel at the border.
Many families in northern Mexico have relatives in Texas, and South Padre Island is a popular vacation spot for people from Monterrey.
In Nuevo Leon state, which includes Monterrey, Gov. Natividad Gonzalez sent a letter to Texas Gov. Rick Perry offering to send in medical and rescue crews. Gonzalez also said Nuevo Leon was prepared to set up shelters near the border in case they are needed.
"Just like you have helped the victims of Katrina, we in Nuevo Leon are ready to offer help to our friends in Texas," Gonzalez wrote.
Salvador Trevino, public safety director for Tamaulipas state, which borders the Texas Rio Grande Valley, said no evacuations have been ordered because Rita is expected to make landfall in Galveston, Texas.
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Associated Press reporter Jorge Vargas contributed to this story from Nuevo Laredo.
Tubby
09-28-2005, 06:59 PM
Forecasts warn major hurricane likely in October
Though late-season storms normally head for Florida, scientists won't rule out another hit on the Gulf Coast.
By Usha Lee McFarling, Los Angeles Times
Meteorologists examining the conditions that spawned hurricanes Rita and Katrina say there is a strong likelihood that another intense hurricane will occur in October.
And while late-season storms tend to track eastward toward Florida or don't make landfall at all, the experts don't rule out the possibility of another major storm targeting the battered Gulf Coast.
Researchers also warn that the country should brace for 10 to 40 more years of powerful storms because of a natural ocean cycle in the midst of the most active hurricane period on record.
"This has been the seventh hyperactive year since 1995," Stan Goldenberg, a meteorologist with the Hurricane Research Division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said this month. "Not every year is going to be like this one, but there's going to be plenty of active years to come."
The hurricane season does not end until Nov. 30, and a forecast group is predicting that October will see two hurricanes, one of them reaching Category 3, 4 or 5. The chance of that storm making landfall in the United States is estimated at 21%, said Philip J. Klotzbach, a member of the tropical storm forecasting team led by William M. Gray of Colorado State University.
Klotzbach's forecast does not address where hurricanes make landfall or whether the Gulf Coast could be hit again. "It's a tricky business tracking where these storms are going to go," he said. "That's governed a lot more by day-to-day weather."
Goldenberg said he "would not be surprised" if the Gulf Coast was hit again, because the same conditions that nudged Rita and Katrina toward the region are in place. Goldenberg, who helps develop NOAA's early-season forecasts, said he expected at least one to three more storms, including a major hurricane. Hurricane forecasters have their eye on a weather disturbance in the tropics that "could be Hurricane Stan," he added.
"This season is not over," said Goldenberg, whose Florida home was destroyed by Hurricane Andrew in 1992. "If I was in the Gulf Coast right now, I'd prepare. Even a tropical storm could do a lot of damage."
Historical patterns show it would be unusual but not impossible for the Gulf Coast to be hit with a major October storm. In the fall, most tropical storms that form near the Bahamas, as Rita and Katrina did, are steered north by weather patterns that deflect them harmlessly out to sea, toward the Bahamas or either coast of Florida, said Christopher W. Landsea, a hurricane researcher with the National Hurricane Center in Miami.
"Texas and Louisiana are at much less risk later in the season," he said.
The Colorado State team bases its forecast on an amalgam of pressures, wind speeds and ocean temperatures from around the globe. The weather experts also rely on a simple rule: "When September is active, October tends to be active," Klotzbach said.
Peak hurricane activity ends by Oct. 10, according to the National Hurricane Center, but big storms can occur later in the season. Hurricane Mitch, a Category 5 storm, caused an estimated 9,000 deaths and left 9,000 people missing when it struck Central America in late October 1998; it hit southern Florida as a tropical storm on Nov. 5 and caused an estimated $40 million in damage.
Even Atlantic hurricanes that morph into monsters, like Katrina, start out as weaklings: mere waves in the atmosphere or feeble weather systems trailing small rainstorms as they drift west across the ocean.
When they hit deep, warm pockets of water, moist ocean air is pulled upward, condensing into clouds and cooling. This movement of air produces gusty winds and thunderstorms. The energy released by the rain is then pumped back up into the clouds, making them rise taller, spin faster and grow into the large cyclonic systems that have become so familiar in recent weeks.
Large patches of warm water are needed to sustain and strengthen hurricanes. The area also must be free of wind shear -- differences in wind speeds at high and low levels of the atmosphere -- which can shred the storm.
Forecasters say the most dreaded storms are "Cape Verde hurricanes." These storms, which begin as atmospheric disturbances flowing off western Africa, form near Cape Verde and often grow massive as they travel across the Atlantic, unimpeded by dry land or cool water. Cape Verde hurricanes usually account for a season's most intense storms; 85% of major Atlantic hurricanes have been of this type.
What was unusual about Rita and Katrina was that they formed close to U.S. shores, near the Bahamas. This means they did not have much time to grow powerful before first hitting land. Both storms swelled to Category 5 in the Gulf of Mexico, where waters are 2 to 3 degrees warmer than normal.
Gerry Bell, the lead scientist for NOAA's hurricane forecast program, said large-scale weather patterns, including a high-pressure system off the eastern United States, created an area of favorable hurricane formation farther west this year. Once the storms formed off the Bahamas, weather patterns that act as "steering currents" pushed them farther west into the Gulf of Mexico and toward Texas and Louisiana. "They really had nowhere else to go," Bell said.
"We saw a similar thing last year when several hurricanes hit Florida," he said. "That was the same thing: a focused steering current."
Bell and fellow forecasters predict that ferocious storms will occur for the next several decades.
They cite a natural ocean cycle called the Atlantic Multi-Decadal scale, which causes weather in the tropical Atlantic to seesaw between cool, windy phases and warm periods with slack winds, spawning frequent, strong hurricanes.
These phases are driven by two massive weather patterns that control monsoon rains over the Amazon and Africa, said Bell.
The continent-sized patterns last for decades and "are so dominant, they control ocean temperature and wind conditions," Bell said.
The historical record shows an active hurricane period during the 1950s and '60s and a lull between 1970 and 1994. Since 1995, hurricane activity has once again been high.
"This is a long-term, active hurricane era," Bell said.
The active period coincides with a global rise in sea temperatures of about 1 degree -- a change most scientists attribute to global warming caused by mankind's production of greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide.
Whether global warming is contributing to stronger hurricanes is a subject of intense debate within the scientific community.
Experts on both sides of the debate agree that it will take years to determine what effect global warming may have on future hurricanes.
In the meantime, they are bracing for more storms.
d-o-b
09-28-2005, 07:12 PM
more great news.....
Tubby
09-28-2005, 07:53 PM
more great news.....
I hope they are wrong, I don't want to put shutter up for a third time.
Tubby
10-17-2005, 08:24 PM
The six-month hurricane season ends Nov. 30. Wilma is the last on the list of storm names for 2005; there are 21 names on the yearly list because the letters q, u, x, y and z are skipped. If any other storms form, letters from the Greek alphabet would be used, starting with Alpha. That has never happened in roughly 60 years of regularly named Atlantic storms.
``We've got six weeks to go, so a lot of things can happen,'' Mayfield said, noting that there have been 10 late-season hurricanes Category 3 or higher since 1995
Best Teach
10-17-2005, 09:31 PM
I heard on the news today that it would break a 73 yr record if we have one more named storm before the season ends.
here is a question for the weather experts: you know how they retire hurricane names for particularly bad storms? no more andrew ever, no more katrina ever, etc.
well let's say we get past wilma (good bet) and into the greek letter named storms. let's say hurricane epsilon lays waste to the entire southeast coast of florida. do they retire the greek letter? no more hurricane epsilons? taking it further, considering the more intense seasons we're going to be having for the next 25 years, what if all the greek letters get retired? then what? perhaps prince could design interesting symbols to represent the hurricanes. it'd be a bitch for the weathercasters to pronounce, but you'd have an infinite supply.
things to think about as wilma sets her sights on us.
Tubby
10-17-2005, 09:39 PM
I heard on the news today that it would break a 73 yr record if we have one more named storm before the season ends.
I'm betting we set a new record for storm names this year :mad:
Donna
10-17-2005, 09:47 PM
TD. If all the Greek letters get retired, all the coastals areas of the US will be desolate. We'll all be living somewhere else because even if we could afford to rebuild again, can you imagine what the insurance rates would be after all those storms. I'm guessing kind of like the current malpractice rates for ob doctors. (Some premiums are as high as their gross income, so many are going uninsured). Just imagine, your half million dollar home with an insurance premium of $400,000 per year.:D
Tubby
10-17-2005, 09:53 PM
I was surprised to see the track for Wilma makes a 45 heading toward Florida. Wilma, you were not invited to Shark Valley this weekend, go away.:mad:
d-o-b
10-17-2005, 10:23 PM
here is a question for the weather experts: you know how they retire hurricane names for particularly bad storms? no more andrew ever, no more katrina ever, etc.
well let's say we get past wilma (good bet) and into the greek letter named storms. let's say hurricane epsilon lays waste to the entire southeast coast of florida. do they retire the greek letter? no more hurricane epsilons? taking it further, considering the more intense seasons we're going to be having for the next 25 years, what if all the greek letters get retired? then what? perhaps prince could design interesting symbols to represent the hurricanes. it'd be a bitch for the weathercasters to pronounce, but you'd have an infinite supply.
things to think about as wilma sets her sights on us.
you can always use numbers!!!
Best Teach
10-17-2005, 10:41 PM
I'm betting we set a new record for storm names this year :mad:
I think you're right. :(
Donna
10-17-2005, 10:54 PM
The pathetic thing is that this year is to become the norm for several years to come. Imagine all the hurricane seasons this busy.:eek:
The pathetic thing is that this year is to become the norm for several years to come. Imagine all the hurricane seasons this busy.:eek:
It's Mother Nature's way of putting us in our places and letting us know how insignificant we are. :D
Donna
10-18-2005, 09:59 AM
Yeah, well I have already gotten the message, she doesn't have to keep reminding me!!
Get your plans made for the weekend and stock up now!
d-o-b
10-18-2005, 10:57 AM
Get your plans made for the weekend and stock up now!
crap, crap, crap!!!! :mad:
Mike Brady
10-18-2005, 08:04 PM
Get your plans made for the weekend and stock up now!
DAMN!!!!!!!!!! I hate putting up shutters & the wife leaves for the Mid-west on Friday.Sucks to be me.Doh Doh Doh Doh :mad: Doh
DAMN!!!!!!!!!! & the wife leaves for the Mid-west on Friday.Sucks to be me.Doh Doh Doh Doh :mad: Doh
Don't worry, the strip clubs will be open all weekend while your wife is gone;)
We cater and these storms are taking us to the cleaners.
Tubby
10-19-2005, 06:50 AM
Overnight Wilma grow into a category 5
Oh the colors are so groovy!:cool: Kinda makes me want to play some Purple Haze.
Nipples the Clown
10-19-2005, 04:19 PM
Oh the colors are so groovy!:cool: Kinda makes me want to play some Purple Haze.
Too much LDS back in the 60's ?????????
Purple haze all in my brain
Lately things just don't seem the same
Actin' funny, but I don't know why
'Scuse me while I kiss the sky
Purple haze all around
Don't know if I'm comin' up or down
Am I happy or in misery?
Whatever it is that girl put a spell on me
Purple haze all in my eyes
Don't know if it's day or night
You got me blowin', blowin' my mind
Is it tomorrow, or just the end of time?
We cater and these storms are taking us to the cleaners.
jzt see if you can't do some catering for the local tv stations, and other places that have to work through the storm. we have everything catered, three meals a day once we go into continuous coverage. if a storm actually hits, everything closes and the caterers are our heros
jzt see if you can't do some catering for the local tv stations, and other places that have to work through the storm. we have everything catered, three meals a day once we go into continuous coverage. if a storm actually hits, everything closes and the caterers are our heros
Here is a tip, the Chinese restaurants stay open. The Dragon Pearl wouldn't close if the roof blew off!
Too much LDS back in the 60's ?????????
Purple haze all in my brain
Lately things just don't seem the same
Actin' funny, but I don't know why
'Scuse me while I kiss the sky
Purple haze all around
Don't know if I'm comin' up or down
Am I happy or in misery?
Whatever it is that girl put a spell on me
Purple haze all in my eyes
Don't know if it's day or night
You got me blowin', blowin' my mind
Is it tomorrow, or just the end of time?
Oh, groovy, smashing. Yea baby yea!
jzt see if you can't do some catering for the local tv stations, and other places that have to work through the storm. we have everything catered, three meals a day once we go into continuous coverage. if a storm actually hits, everything closes and the caterers are our herosThanks for the suggestion, but we usually only cater large events like Weddings, etc... We aren't set up for this type of catering. So we will most likely lose 2 big events this weekend.
Mrs. Hein
10-19-2005, 07:37 PM
Get your plans made for the weekend and stock up now!
That's a nice display (msg #98). What's the website?
That's a nice display (msg #98). What's the website?
Do you mean post #108? www.wsi.com sells weather for business interests. I am in the maritime industry and use it for commercial shipping.
Mrs. Hein
10-19-2005, 10:08 PM
Do you mean post #108? www.wsi.com sells weather for business interests. I am in the maritime industry and use it for commercial shipping.
I'm a accounting major and aren't no good wit numbers!!
I am the original owner of my home which was built before Andrew so I have no shutters of any kind. To date my hurricane preparation has been to pay the home owners insurance premium and stock up on rum. I finally got estimates for shutters and face the dilemma of aluminum panels and the work involved or accordion shutters and the cost involved. Accordions are roughly double the cost of panels and with 23 windows to cover it amounts to about the price of a small car! At heart I'm a cheap bastard, but should I fork over the extra coin for accordions and be done with it or go cheap:confused: ?
Mrs. Hein
10-20-2005, 10:29 PM
I am the original owner of my home which was built before Andrew so I have no shutters of any kind. To date my hurricane preparation has been to pay the home owners insurance premium and stock up on rum. I finally got estimates for shutters and face the dilemma of aluminum panels and the work involved or accordion shutters and the cost involved. Accordions are roughly double the cost of panels and with 23 windows to cover it amounts to about the price of a small car! At heart I'm a cheap bastard, but should I fork over the extra coin for accordions and be done with it or go cheap:confused: ?
If you are 2 story, definitely accordians, at least for the upstairs. How much time do you want to spend putting up shutters? It's not an easy task, and really requires two people if you have panels any longer than about 3 feet. Also, if you are out of town, how long does Mrs. Toad want to spend closing up the house?
Hopefully, Mr. Hein and I have done our last panel installation this year. We are going to be one of many who sign sales contracts in November for hopeful installation next fall sometime, based on the install dates of others on NC.
Best Teach
10-20-2005, 11:27 PM
I am the original owner of my home which was built before Andrew so I have no shutters of any kind. To date my hurricane preparation has been to pay the home owners insurance premium and stock up on rum. I finally got estimates for shutters and face the dilemma of aluminum panels and the work involved or accordion shutters and the cost involved. Accordions are roughly double the cost of panels and with 23 windows to cover it amounts to about the price of a small car! At heart I'm a cheap bastard, but should I fork over the extra coin for accordions and be done with it or go cheap:confused: ?
I have a 2 story house and we installed accordians upstairs and panels on the first floor. If money wasn't an option, I would have done accordians both floors! It is very comforting to know that I can secure the 2nd story windows in 10 min before my hubby even gets home. Panels are a pain in the butt to install, especially if it is raining and you are nervous of the coming storm. 23 windows is a lot of panels that you will have to then store in your garage, too. My neighbor has a one story and they did a combo of both as well. They got accordians on the bigger windows and panels on the others. I say go help a neighbor put up his/her panels and then decide!! :D
I have a 2 story house and we installed accordians upstairs and panels on the first floor. If money wasn't an option, I would have done accordians both floors! It is very comforting to know that I can secure the 2nd story windows in 10 min before my hubby even gets home. Panels are a pain in the butt to install, especially if it is raining and you are nervous of the coming storm. 23 windows is a lot of panels that you will have to then store in your garage, too. My neighbor has a one story and they did a combo of both as well. They got accordians on the bigger windows and panels on the others. I say go help a neighbor put up his/her panels and then decide!! :D
My house is one story, but I have large fixed glass in the places where the the ceiling is really tall (almost as tall as a two story in places).
Non Member
10-21-2005, 08:59 AM
Toad,
Go for the accordians. I have accordians upstairs and panels downstairs. I didn't want to spend the money. Big mistake.
These hurricane events will become nothing with the knowledge you can close all the shutters in 1/2 hour.
For all the reasons Best Teach mentioned, go for the accordians. BTW, who are you using? I'm thinmking of going to accordians for my 2 story window and ground floor.
Toad,
Go for the accordians. I have accordians upstairs and panels downstairs. I didn't want to spend the money. Big mistake.
These hurricane events will become nothing with the knowledge you can close all the shutters in 1/2 hour.
For all the reasons Best Teach mentioned, go for the accordians. BTW, who are you using? I'm thinmking of going to accordians for my 2 story window and ground floor.
I have a couple of quotes. It is between A-shutters (345-001) and Clearview Shutters (586-0900). I may use a new wind screen product on the lani (spelling) because it would allow outside safe storage of all my tables & furniture, protection of the outside tv & electronics, as well as allow light. The screen solution is very expensive but because it would also cover five glass door openings it comes out about the same as accordions for this particular space. Only clear view sells this product called Force12.
d-o-b
10-21-2005, 09:39 AM
My house is one story, but I have large fixed glass in the places where the the ceiling is really tall (almost as tall as a two story in places).
same here, I learned to hate those freaking windows....:mad:
same here, I learned to hate those freaking windows....:mad:
I love the windows when it's not hurrican season.
I am the original owner of my home which was built before Andrew so I have no shutters of any kind. To date my hurricane preparation has been to pay the home owners insurance premium and stock up on rum. I finally got estimates for shutters and face the dilemma of aluminum panels and the work involved or accordion shutters and the cost involved. Accordions are roughly double the cost of panels and with 23 windows to cover it amounts to about the price of a small car! At heart I'm a cheap bastard, but should I fork over the extra coin for accordions and be done with it or go cheap:confused: ?
A cheap bastard doesn't buy ponies for their children. A "crazy" one but definitely not a "cheap" one. :D
Toad,
Go for the accordians. I have accordians upstairs and panels downstairs. I didn't want to spend the money. Big mistake.
These hurricane events will become nothing with the knowledge you can close all the shutters in 1/2 hour.
For all the reasons Best Teach mentioned, go for the accordians. BTW, who are you using? I'm thinmking of going to accordians for my 2 story window and ground floor.
We want to get the accordians for upstairs. After this season, I'm definitely going to seriously consider it.
great, it will probably be pouring rain until the storm gets here now, so for the people who waited to put their shutters up, you can now look forward to standing on a slippery, algae covered, steep, and now wet roof.
look out belowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Best Teach
10-21-2005, 04:47 PM
great, it will probably be pouring rain until the storm gets here now, so for the people who waited to put their shutters up, you can now look forward to standing on a slippery, algae covered, steep, and now wet roof.
look out belowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Which is exactly why we have accordians upstairs! No ladders required for our shutter installation. Toad: take note!
Which is exactly why we have accordions upstairs! No ladders required for our shutter installation. Toad: take note!
Note taken.
Please send your cash contributions to the Toad Hurricane Relief Fund for accordion shutters.Rain
Mrs. Hein
10-21-2005, 05:04 PM
Which is exactly why we have accordians upstairs! No ladders required for our shutter installation. Toad: take note!
Best Teach, do you have any stationary windows (decorative only, non-moving) on the second floor? If so, how do you close them? I want something with which I can stand on terra firma and close this window-type of shutter.
Best Teach, do you have any stationary windows (decorative only, non-moving) on the second floor? If so, how do you close them? I want something with which I can stand on terra firma and close this window-type of shutter.
How about the nice really expensive remote controlled electric ones.
Mrs. Hein
10-21-2005, 05:32 PM
How about the nice really expensive remote controlled electric ones.
That may be the only option for our five windows that cannot be accessed from inside the house. We want something that I can do all by myself if Mr. Hein is travelling.
Best Teach, do you have any stationary windows (decorative only, non-moving) on the second floor? If so, how do you close them? I want something with which I can stand on terra firma and close this window-type of shutter.
My fixed glass windows that are up high also have windows directly below them at "regular" height. The accordions will be one big tall one that will cover both the high and the low ones which can be closed from the ground level outside. No ladder required.
Tubby
10-21-2005, 05:43 PM
That may be the only option for our five windows that cannot be accessed from inside the house. We want something that I can do all by myself if Mr. Hein is travelling.
Roll ups, easy expensive but worth the money. I have panels on the smaller windows and roll ups on the bigger windows including the back patio, I don't have to even move the patio furniture. 30 seconds and 1/2 the house is closed down. We leave one of the patio panels open until the wind picks up and we close the panel. I also have a weather station that gives me current wind speeds, I set the alarm to the max wind speed I want before closing the last panel, then push a button and 10 seconds its closed. If the power goes out, it would take about 1 minute to crack down.
Roll ups, easy expensive but worth the money. I have panels on the smaller windows and roll ups on the bigger windows including the back patio, I don't have to even move the patio furniture. 30 seconds and 1/2 the house is closed down. We leave one of the patio panels open until the wind picks up and we close the panel. I also have a weather station that gives me current wind speeds, I set the alarm to the max wind speed I want before closing the last panel, then push a button and 10 seconds its closed. If the power goes out, it would take about 1 minute to crack down.
wow - I feel behind the times and a little jealous. :)
Roll ups, easy expensive but worth the money. I have panels on the smaller windows and roll ups on the bigger windows including the back patio, I don't have to even move the patio furniture. 30 seconds and 1/2 the house is closed down. We leave one of the patio panels open until the wind picks up and we close the panel. I also have a weather station that gives me current wind speeds, I set the alarm to the max wind speed I want before closing the last panel, then push a button and 10 seconds its closed. If the power goes out, it would take about 1 minute to crack down.
Wow that is a great system. I think you just gave me shrinkageDoh
Tubby
10-21-2005, 07:31 PM
Check the ticker on the New Forum page for the latest Hurricane information.
To get to the new forum page just click on the logo located on the top left of your screen.
Donna
10-21-2005, 09:42 PM
Toad, the thing I always find amazing on our weather system in the house, is that the trees look like they are ready to fall over out back and the system shows 15 or 20 mile an hour winds. I noticed this especially during the last two hurricanes. It makes me wonder how bad the real strong winds will be. I guess I'll see the trees fly by the window when we get those.
Toad, the thing I always find amazing on our weather system in the house, is that the trees look like they are ready to fall over out back and the system shows 15 or 20 mile an hour winds. I noticed this especially during the last two hurricanes. It makes me wonder how bad the real strong winds will be. I guess I'll see the trees fly by the window when we get those.
Placement of wind gages is critical. It is difficult to get a good reading around houses and trees. At one time I was really into sailing and racing, and it was usually accepted that wind shadow from a object like a tree is 10 times the height of the object. There is also a vortex effect when the wind is funneled between two objects (the magic of Maui wind). To get a good wind reading you have to get up high to "clean" air.
If you use Weatherbug, look at the wind speed difference between Cypress Bay HS, BSO on Arvida, and Archbishop HS. It is largely due to the placement of their wind Gage.
Do you have your weather station on the weather underground?
Tubby
10-21-2005, 10:08 PM
Placement of wind gages is critical. It is difficult to get a good reading around houses and trees. At one time I was really into sailing and racing, and it was usually accepted that wind shadow from a object like a tree is 10 times the height of the object. There is also a vortex effect when the wind is funneled between two objects (the magic of Maui wind). To get a good wind reading you have to get up high to "clean" air.
If you use Weatherbug, look at the wind speed difference between Cypress Bay HS, BSO on Arvida, and Archbishop HS. It is largely due to the placement of their wind Gage.
Do you have your weather station on the weather underground?
The wind reading appear to be correct, I have checked them with a handheld unit. No I'm not set up on the weather underground, I tried to set it up here but am have trouble.:mad:
The wind reading appear to be correct, I have checked them with a handheld unit. No I'm not set up on the weather underground, I tried to set it up here but am have trouble.:mad:
You mean you stood up on the highes point of your house with a hand held unit above your head to test?:D
Donna
10-22-2005, 08:27 AM
No, I had to...right after he upped my life insurance. LOL!!
No, I had to...right after he upped my life insurance. LOL!!
ROFLMAO :) :)
Tubby
10-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Advisory #28a @ 8:00am Rain
A HURRICANE WATCH Doh WILL LIKELY BE REQUIRED FOR PORTIONS OF THE
CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA AND THE FLORIDA KEYS LATER
TODAY.
ALL INTERESTS IN THE FLORIDA KEYS AND THE FLORIDA PENINSULA SHOULD
CLOSELY MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE WILMA.
FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.
Mrs. Hein
10-22-2005, 11:22 AM
Roll ups, easy expensive but worth the money. I have panels on the smaller windows and roll ups on the bigger windows including the back patio, I don't have to even move the patio furniture. 30 seconds and 1/2 the house is closed down. We leave one of the patio panels open until the wind picks up and we close the panel. I also have a weather station that gives me current wind speeds, I set the alarm to the max wind speed I want before closing the last panel, then push a button and 10 seconds its closed. If the power goes out, it would take about 1 minute to crack down.
Tubby, you must have a roof over your patio, (not just a screen roof) right? If so, how much concrete on the outside of the patio framework is needed to install the track for the rollups?
Tubby
10-22-2005, 12:08 PM
Tubby, you must have a roof over your patio, (not just a screen roof) right? If so, how much concrete on the outside of the patio framework is needed to install the track for the rollups?
They mounted the upright along the vertical columns and the motor units on the concrete cap below the roof line. We only enclose the section under a roof.
Donna
10-22-2005, 12:29 PM
I haven't seen much activity here for people putting shutters up. Ours are up, the house next door had someone put them up yesterday. I walked around the block last night and didn't see more than 1 or 2 people even getting the shutters out of their garage.
I put my mother in law's up Wednesday and then talked to the painters at the house next door to me and helped them carry all the stuff they had piled on the side of the house and the patio into the garage. We ended up with four black bags of trash too. They have had a lot of stuff sitting out for a long time. I was afraid with this storm that it would all go flying into my house. I thought I would look too rude to ask them to move it, so I asked if he wanted my help moving it. That worked out nice, but gave me another hour's work.Doh
Tubby
10-22-2005, 12:32 PM
Florida Keys are under a Hurricane Watch
Mrs. Hein
10-22-2005, 12:34 PM
They mounted the upright along the vertical columns and the motor units on the concrete cap below the roof line. We only enclose the section under a roof.
So there's no framework or installation on the concrete pad at all?
Tubby
10-22-2005, 12:44 PM
So there's no framework or installation on the concrete pad at all?
No not on the ground slab.
Tubby
10-22-2005, 12:46 PM
Did anyone notice # 25 has formed South of Haiti, looks like it will stay away from us Nono Doh :mad:
d-o-b
10-22-2005, 01:31 PM
Florida Keys are under a Hurricane Watch
we will be next :mad:
d-o-b
10-22-2005, 01:32 PM
Did anyone notice # 25 has formed South of Haiti, looks like it will stay away from us Nono Doh :mad:
yeah, that one is going up....
d-o-b
10-22-2005, 01:42 PM
State of emergency declared for Broward, schools closed on Monday
TIME TO GET BUSY!!! :mad:
TIME TO GET BUSY!!! :mad:
We'll probably stay in a state of emergency all week, then Wilma will show up next weekend to destroy another weekend of business for us. :mad:
Tubby
10-22-2005, 01:52 PM
TIME TO GET BUSY!!! :mad:
I'm done, except for the rollups. Check out the countdown timer it will tell you my estimated target and time before eye makes landfall.Argue Nono Rain
Tubby
10-22-2005, 01:59 PM
HURRICANE CANCELLATIONS
EMERGENCY SERVICES
• Miami-Dade Emergency Operations Answer Center hot line is open and taking calls: 3-1-1. Outside Miami-Dade County, dial: 305-468-5900. TDD Line: 305-468-5402. For more disaster-related information: www.miamidade.gov/emergency.
• Broward County Emergency Operations Center's Hurricane Hotline is open and taking calls from 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. today: 954-831-4000. For information: www.broward.org.
SCHOOLS
• Miami-Dade Public Schools: Today's activities and classes canceled; workshops postponed. A decision about Monday classes will be made this evening.Information: www.dadeschools.net.
• Broward County Schools: Closed Monday. Athletic events and extracurriculars scheduled for this weekend have been canceled or postponed. Information: www.browardschools.com.
• Archdiocese of Miami: Closed Monday in Broward and Monroe Counties. Miami-Dade follows public school closings. Wilma Monsignor Edward Pace High School has postponed its Open House from Sunday until Nov. 6. Information: www.miamiarch.org.
• ACT college admission and placement exams: Postponed at ACT centers across South Florida. Registered students will be notified of the make-up date. . Information: www.actstudent.org/regist/reschedule.html
• The Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale: Closed through Tuesday. Expected to reopen on Wednesday, Oct. 26. Information: 954-463-3000 or www.aifl.edu.
• Broward Community College: Closed through Monday. The college plans to reopen on Tuesday. Information: Watch www.broward.edu or 954-201-4900 (students) and 954-201-6600 (employees).
• Carlos Albizu University: Doral campus closed through Monday. All classes and events canceled. Information: 305-593-1223.
• Florida Atlantic University: All campuses closed as of 5 p.m. today through Tuesday morning. All classes and events canceled. Information: 954-236-1800 or www.fau.edu.
• Miami Dade College: Remains open today and Sunday, all classes as scheduled. Information: 305-237-7500; www.mdc.edu.
• The Art Institute of Fort Lauderdale will be closed through Tuesday. It is expected to reopen on Wednesday. Updates, call 954-463-3000.
TRANSPORT
• Miami-Dade Expressway Authority: Special Operations Committee and Board of Directors meetings scheduled for Tuesday have been postponed, pending further notice.
• Florida Turnpike: Tolls suspended on Turnpike northbound, Exit 1-Exit 27; and on Alligator Alley (I-75) eastbound.
• Broward County Transit operates a normal schedule today.
• Tri-Rail: Service suspended today, pending further notice. Information: 800-TRI-RAIL or www.tri-rail.com.
• Amtrak: Auto Train canceled today, in both north- and southbound directions, between Lorton, Va. and Sanford, Fla.. Southbound New York-Miami Silver Star and Silver Meteor trains canceled today. Northbound Miami-New York Silver Star and Silver Meteor canceled through Monday, pending further notice. Information: 800-USA-RAIL or www.amtrak.com.
COURTS
• U.S. District Court, Southern District of Florida, will be closed Monday, affecting courts and clerks in Key West, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach and Fort Pierce. Information: www.flsd.uscourts.gov.
• Eleventh Judicial Circuit Court of Florida will be closed Monday. Information: 305-349-7777.
OTHER LOCAL SERVICES
• Bascom Palmer Eye Institute: Closed Monday, including hospitals and clinics in Miami, Palm Beach Gardens and Plantation. Information: www.bascompalmer.org.
• Libraries: Miami-Dade branches remain open, but the annual book sale set to run through Sunday at the Main Library will be rescheduled sometime next week. North Miami Public Library will close today.
• Pet Clinic: Broward County has rescheduled a low-cost pet vaccination clinic from today to Nov. 19. Information: 954-497-1636.
• Postal Service: Monroe County post offices closed and delivery suspended at noon Saturday. Miami-Dade and Broward retail and delivery continues as usual. Decisions on Monday delivery pending. Information: 800-ASK-USPS.
BULK TRASH PICKUP
• Miami: Residents whose trash has already been collected this week are advised that additional crews will not be out. To unload bulky trash now, go to 1290 NW 20th St., between 7 a.m. and 5:30 p.m.
• Miami Beach: Regular trash pickup continues. Residents are asked not to set out bulky trash or tree debris without a previously scheduled pickup appointment.
• North Miami: Regular Saturday pickup.
• Plantation: Pickup will be 5 to 7 a.m. Monday.
PARKS
• Dry Tortugas National Park: Closed.
• Everglades National Park: Most entrances and facilities closed. Main Florida City gate, Coe Visitor's Center and Shark Valley remain open, pending further notice. Information: (305) 242-7700.
• Biscayne National Park: Closed.
• North Miami: All Parks and Recreation events scheduled for this weekend are canceled.
PUBLIC PLACES
• Miami Art Museum: 101 W. Flagler St. Closed today and Sunday.
• Miami Art Central: 5960 SW 57 Ave. Closed today and Sunday.
• Museum of Contemporary Art: 700 NE 124 St. Closed today and Sunday.
EVENTS
• Antiques Roadshow: The appearance of memorabilia appraiser Gary Sohmers, scheduled for today at Hollywood's Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, postponed to Dec. 3.
• Beach Boys: Concert postponed from tonight to the last week in December, date TBA.
• Bon Jovi: Tickets, set to go on sale today at the Bank Atlantic Center, now hit the box office 10 a.m. Oct. 29.
• Broward County Cultural Division Workshops: Postponed two Monday seminars, ''Grant-Seeking Basics for Individuals in the Arts'' and ''Finding Funders in the Arts.'' New dates TBA. Information: www.broward.org/arts at ``Workshops.''
• Chicago Blues on Harrison Street: Postponed from today to Nov. 12.
• Children's Health Day: Sponsored by Baptist Children's Hospital, postponed from Sunday to Nov. 6. Information: www.baptisthealth.net.
• Danzig Show: Tonight's show at Revolution in Fort Lauderale cancelled. Patronscan return tickets to point of purchase for a refund. Information: 954-727-0950.
• Dave Gorman's Googlewhack! Adventure: All performances scheduled in the Amaturo Theater at the Broward Center of the Performing Arts have been canceled and will not be rescheduled. Ticketholders should call 954-462-0222 beginning Tuesday or return to the place of purchase for a refund.
• Davie Public Workshop/Charrette: Today's charrette and Thursday follow-up meeting postponed. Information: Community Redevelopment Agency 954-797-2093.
• Dominoes Tournament: The Florida Foreign Trade Association has indefinitely postponed tourney scheduled for today. Information: 305-471-0737 or www.ffta.com.
• Domestic Violence Seminar: State Rep. Dorothy Bendross-Mindingall and the Black Nurses Association have indefinitely postponed course set for today. Information: 305-694-2958.
• Festival Miami: Concert performances have been postponed, including: Drewnowski for Sunday, Oct. 30; Josefowicz for Friday, Nov. 4; Hamlisch for Sunday, Nov. 4. Information: 305-284-4940 or www.festivalmiami.com.
• Ft. Lauderdale International Boat Show: Postponed to run Saturday, Oct. 29 -- Tuesday, Nov. 1. Information: 954-527-9332 or www.showmanagement.com.
• Fright Nights at the South Florida Fairgrounds: Canceled through Wednesday. Will resume 7 p.m. Thursday. Patrons holding advance tickets for any of the canceled dates can use them when the event reopens.
• Five Star Rodeo: Canceled, along with all arena and special event activities set for this weekend in Davie. Information: www.davie-fl.gov.
• Guaco and La Sonora Carruseles: This weekend's performances at the Jackie Gleason Theater canceled. Refund tickets at place of purchase. Information: 305-673-7300.
• Hanan Arts Cooperative: ''Bizarre/Bazar'' Fundraiser postponed from today until Friday, Nov. 4. Information: www.hanan4peace.com.
Hanson: Concert postponed from Sunday at Club Cinema in Pompano Beach, new date TBA. Information: www.cellardoor.com.
• Heart Healthy Weekend: Free cholesterol and blood pressure screenings postponed from this weekend until Nov. 12-13, at International Mall in Doral.
• Hispanic Heritage Tours: Scheduled for today and postponed until November, date TBA. Information: 305-884-7567.
• Key West Fantasy Fest: Kick-off postponed to Tuesday. Events will continue through Oct. 30.
• Kitetoberfest: Postponed from Sunday until Oct. 30 in Haulover Beach Park. Information: 786-897-3370.
• The Marathon High School Band: Spaghetti Dinner Fundraiser, scheduled for Sunday, has been indefinitely postponed. Information: 305-289-2480, ext. 315.
• Maximum Flavor: Cookbook author Adrianne Calvo has postponed her lecture scheduled for today at Bayside Marketplace to Nov. 12.
• Maximum Pro Wrestling: Postponed from Sunday to Oct. 30 at Florida Atlantic University.
• Miami Art Central: Christina Rebull concert postponed from today until Nov. 3 at 8 p.m. Family Program postponed from Sunday until Oct. 30 at 4:00 p.m. Information: 305-455-3336 or www.miamiartcentral.
• The Miami Museum of Science & Planetarium: ''Amazon Voyage'' preview postponed to 7 p.m. Thursday.
• Miramar: Masquerade Dance, scheduled for today, postponed to November. Information: 954-704-1631.
• Mount Sinai Medical Center Foundation, Opening Founders Supper Buffet: Postponed from Tuesday, Oct. 25 until Nov. 15, at La Gorce Country Club, Miami Beach. Information: 305-343-8045.
• Mosaic Theatre: Auditions postponed to Nov. 21-22. Information: mosaictheatre.com/auditions.htm
• ''My Wedding'' South Florida Bridal Show: Postponed from Sunday until Dec. 4, 1-4 p.m. at the Biltmore Hotel. Information: 305-376-4783 or www.my weddingsouthflorida.com.
• The National Alliance for Autism Research: ''Walk F.A.R. for Autism'' walk, scheduled for Sunday, postponed to Dec. 4. Information: 800-610-6227 or www.autismwalk.org/miami.
• Nova Southeastern University: Performances of Tiki's Three Little Pigs, scheduled for today at The Rose and Alfred Miniaci Performing Arts Center in Fort Lauderdale, postponed to Nov. 5. Information: 954-462-0222.
• Organ music: Paul Jacobs concert scheduled for Sunday at Miami Beach Community Church canceled.
• Plantation: ''Art in the Park'' event postponed from this weekend until Dec. 10 and 11.
• Project Safe Neighborhoods: Reentry Summit postponed from this weekend until Dec. 13 and 14.
• Public Relations Society of America (PRSA) International Conference: Canceled. Information: 888-277-3926 or www.prsa.org.
• Las ratas debajo (Rats Below): Premier postponed until Oct. 31, 8 p.m. at Teatro Tower. Information: 305-237-7482.
• Red Hat Ladies Toy Collection: Postponed from today until Oct. 29, 11 a.m. in Wilton Manors. Information: 954-537-6061.
• South Florida CEO Panel on International Trade: Canceled discussion that had been set for Wednesday at the Miami City Club.
• St. Philip's Episcopal Church: Choral Concert for hurricane relief postponed from Sunday until Oct. 30 at 1142 Coral Way.
• Viva Broward: Postponed from today at Riverwalk in Fort Lauderdale, to Oct. 30. Information: 954-527-0627 or www.vivabroward.com.
The Wedding Salon: Postponed until Nov. 1 at The Biltmore Hotel. Information: www.4PMWeddingSalon.com.
• Week Without Violence Community Picnic: YWCA of Greater Miami event scheduled for today is indefinitely postponed. Information: 305-377-9922, ext. 214.
SPORTING EVENTS
• Florida Atlantic University Men's Soccer: Match against Belmont has been rescheduled for 2 p.m. Nov. 2.
• Miami Dragon Boat Races: Weekend regatta has been indefinitely postponed. Information: 305-633-0168 or www.miamidragon.com.
• Miccosukee Nationwide Tour Golf Event: Canceled.
• South Florida football: Game against West Virginia indefinitely postponed.
• University of Miami football: Game against Georgia Tech has been postponed until Nov. 19. Game at Wake Forest will be moved up from Nov. 17 to Nov. 12.
Wow, thanks for all the info Tubby!
billuscher
10-22-2005, 04:51 PM
If you going to evacuate go to this site to check the roads
http://www.fhp.state.fl.us/
Tubby
10-22-2005, 05:23 PM
I'm just wondering when I will lose Internet connection. Remember I still have advance cable. Getting the phone cord ready.
I'm just wondering when I will lose Internet connection. Remember I still have advance cable. Getting the phone cord ready.
I'm glad your server service isn't on Advanced Cable Whoo I can't remember the last time I lost internet connection.
Tubby
10-22-2005, 06:24 PM
At 5 Pm Edt...2100z...a Hurricane Watch Has Been Issued Along The
West Coast Of Florida From Longboat Key Southward...and Along The
East Coast Of Florida From Titusville Southward.
A Hurricane Watch Remains In Effect For All Of The Florida Keys...
Including The Dry Tortugas And Florida Bay.
At 5 Pm Edt...a Tropical Storm Watch Has Been Issued Along The West Coast Of Florida From North Of Longboat Key Northward To
Steinhatchee River... And Along The East Coast Of Florida From
North Of Titusville Northward To Fernandina Beach.
Tubby
10-22-2005, 08:23 PM
A record we did not need to break, Tropic Storm Alpha has formed South of Haiti.
I'm just wondering when I will lose Internet connection. Remember I still have advance cable. Getting the phone cord ready.
Maybe you should change the count down until you lose internet connection?;)
I'm just wondering when I will lose Internet connection. Remember I still have advance cable. Getting the phone cord ready.
I'm mad at myself for not getting around to changing it. I'm definitely switching to Bellsouth. Just haven't done it yet and I will be kicking myself soon. Doh
Tubby
10-22-2005, 09:59 PM
Maybe you should change the count down until you lose internet connection?;)
should be about the same time
Tubby
10-22-2005, 10:01 PM
I'm mad at myself for not getting around to changing it. I'm definitely switching to Bellsouth. Just haven't done it yet and I will be kicking myself soon. Doh
I check on-line today and Bellsouth's website indicated DSL is not available for our phone number.
Tubby
10-23-2005, 08:21 AM
When will Wilma's winds reach us?
Based on the current forecast, tropical storm force winds (greater than 39 mph) are expected to begin over Collier County this evening, reaching metro Miami-Dade and the Lake Okeechobee region around midnight and the Broward and Palm Beach County metro areas shortly after midnight.
Sustained hurricane force winds or frequent gusts to hurricane force (greater than 74 mph) are expected to begin affecting Collier and mainland Monroe counties during the early pre-dawn hours Monday, reaching metro Miami-Dade and the Lake Okeechobee region shortly after dawn and the Broward and Palm Beach metro areas mid morning on Monday.
The strongest winds are not expected to last long, generally a
few hours. The winds will be diminishing below tropical storm
force in most areas by early afternoon, and in metro Palm Beach and
Broward by mid afternoon Monday.
Factoring in uncertainties in the forecast track, intensity and size of the storm, there is a 70 to 80 percent chance that mainland South Florida will experience tropical storm conditions through Monday. The chance that mainland South Florida will experience winds in excess of 58 mph is from 40 to 55 percent. The chance that mainland South Florida will experience hurricane conditions is from 10 to 25 percent.
-- National Weather Service
Tubby
10-23-2005, 08:26 AM
National Weather Service advisory
What to expect in South Florida
Hurricane Wilma is forecast to affect southwest Florida beginning Sunday night and all of South Florida on Monday. There is still some uncertainty as far as the intensity, timing and exact track of Wilma as it approaches the Florida Peninsula. However, a Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions are possible within 36 hours.
Residents across all of South Florida are advised to put their preparedness plans into place if the watches are upgraded to warnings
on Sunday.
Storm surge flood and storm tide impacts
At this stage, it is too early to provide detailed information on what the surge impact will be as it is highly dependent on the exact track, size and intensity of the storm. However, a storm surge of 9 to 12 feet is possible along the Collier and Mainland Monroe County coasts. This would likely result in flooding of areas south and west of Tamiami Trail. Over Lake Okeechobee, a storm surge of 7 to 10 feet above Current Lake levels is possible. On the east coast, storm surges of 2 to 4 feet above tide level is possible over northern
sections of Biscayne Bay if the center of Wilma moves as forecast.
Wind impacts
It is too early to provide detailed information on what the wind impact will be across South Florida as it is highly dependent on the exact track, size and intensity of the storm. However, based on the current forecast, tropical storm force winds are expected to begin over southwest Florida Sunday evening, then spread across the rest of South Florida late Sunday night. Hurricane force winds may start affecting the southwest Florida Gulf Coast during the pre-dawn hours Monday, then across much of the interior and eastern sections near or shortly after daybreak Monday. Damage to Mobile homes is possible, especially if unanchored. Some building damage to roofs, windows and doors is also possible. Large trees may be uprooted which would likely cause downed power lines, resulting in extended power outages across South Florida.
Probability of hurricane/tropical storm conditions
Factoring in uncertainties in the forecast track, intensity and size of the storm, there is a 65 to 80 percent chance that mainland South Florida will experience tropical storm conditions, winds in excess of 39 mph through Monday. The chance that mainland South Florida will experience winds in excess of 58 mph is from 35 to 50 percent.
Local marine impacts
It is too early to provide detailed information on what the marine impact will be across South Florida as it is highly dependent on the exact track, size and intensity of the storm. However, over the Gulf of Mexico coastal waters of southwest Florida, tropical storm force winds of 35 to 45 knots are expected to affect the southwest Florida coastal waters early Sunday evening with seas building to as high as 16 feet, with winds possibly reaching hurricane force late Sunday night. Surf along the southwest Florida coast will become
increasingly rough on Sunday, becoming very rough Sunday evening and Sunday night. Significant beach erosion is likely as the hurricane approaches the coast, and rip currents will also be likely Sunday through Monday. Mariners should start making plans to protect marine craft on all coasts allowing plenty of extra line for the expected storm surge especially along the southwest Florida Gulf Coast and Lake Okeechobee.
Local flood impacts
Storm total rainfall amounts of 5 to 8 inches are expected across parts of South Florida through Monday, with localized amounts in excess of 10 inches. A flood watch will likely be issued on Sunday. More detailed information on what the flood impact will be across South Florida will be provided in further updates.
Local tornado impacts
Tropical cyclones moving into the Florida Peninsula from the Gulf of Mexico have a history of being prolific tornado producers, particularly when interacting with a southward moving cold front. Hurricane Isbell produced at least 13 tornadoes on a path similar to the forecast Wilma path in October 1964. All of South Florida has the potential for isolated tornadoes during the next couple of days as bands associated with Wilma begin affecting the area. This threat will
increase Sunday, and could be significant as the storm approaches the
state.
Storm surge flood and storm tide impacts
At this stage, it is too early to provide detailed information on what the surge impact will be as it is highly dependent on the exact track, size and intensity of the storm. However, a storm surge of 9 to 12 feet is possible along the Collier and Mainland Monroe County coasts. This would likely result in flooding of areas south and west of Tamiami Trail. Over Lake Okeechobee, a storm surge of 7 to 10 feet above Current Lake levels is possible. On the east coast, storm surges of 2 to 4 feet above tide level is possible over northern
sections of Biscayne Bay if the center of Wilma moves as forecast.
Wind impacts
It is too early to provide detailed information on what the wind impact will be across South Florida as it is highly dependent on the exact track, size and intensity of the storm. However, based on the current forecast, tropical storm force winds are expected to begin over southwest Florida Sunday evening, then spread across the rest of South Florida late Sunday night. Hurricane force winds may start affecting the southwest Florida Gulf Coast during the pre-dawn hours
Monday, then across much of the interior and eastern sections near or shortly after daybreak Monday. Damage to Mobile homes is possible, especially if unanchored. Some building damage to roofs, windows and doors is also possible. Large trees may be uprooted which would likely cause downed power lines, resulting in extended power outages across South Florida.
Probability of hurricane/tropical storm conditions
Factoring in uncertainties in the forecast track, intensity and size of the storm, there is a 65 to 80 percent chance that mainland South Florida will experience tropical storm conditions, winds in excess of 39 mph through Monday. The chance that mainland South Florida will experience winds in excess of 58 mph is from 35 to 50 percent.
Local marine impacts
It is too early to provide detailed information on what the marine impact will be across South Florida as it is highly dependent on the exact track, size and intensity of the storm. However, over the Gulf of Mexico coastal waters of southwest Florida, tropical storm force winds of 35 to 45 knots are expected to affect the southwest Florida coastal waters early Sunday evening with seas building to as high as 16 feet, with winds possibly reaching hurricane force late Sunday night. Surf along the southwest Florida coast will become
increasingly rough on Sunday, becoming very rough Sunday evening and Sunday night. Significant beach erosion is likely as the hurricane approaches the coast, and rip currents will also be likely Sunday through Monday. Mariners should start making plans to protect marine craft on all coasts allowing plenty of extra line for the expected storm surge especially along the southwest Florida Gulf Coast and Lake Okeechobee.
Local flood impacts
Storm total rainfall amounts of 5 to 8 inches are expected across parts of South Florida through Monday, with localized amounts in excess of 10 inches. A flood watch will likely be issued on Sunday. More detailed information on what the flood impact will be across South Florida will be provided in further updates.
Local tornado impacts
Tropical cyclones moving into the Florida Peninsula from the Gulf of Mexico have a history of being prolific tornado producers, particularly when interacting with a southward moving cold front. Hurricane Isbell produced at least 13 tornadoes on a path similar to the forecast Wilma path in October 1964. All of South Florida has the potential for isolated tornadoes during the next couple of days as bands associated with Wilma begin affecting the area. This threat will
increase Sunday, and could be significant as the storm approaches the
state.
Donna
10-23-2005, 08:13 PM
It looks like most people in our area are ready. Only a few houses were without shutters. I had not noticed how many people in our area had accordian shutters. I was glad the weather cooperated for all the people putting them up today. Having to do it in the wind and rain is no fun.
Tubby
10-23-2005, 08:43 PM
Broward County braces for Hurricane Wilma
By Scott Wyman, Sun-Sentinel
Broward County will likely take the hardest hit from a hurricane than at any time in more than 40 years when Wilma moves through the area over the next 24 hours, emergency management officials warned Sunday evening.
The core of Wilma is expected to move through Broward around dawn with sustained winds of 80 mph and gusts of up 100 mph. Conditions also will be ripe for strong tornadoes to form and bring more damage.
Officials were bracing for widespread power outages, but believe Wilma is moving so fast that flooding will be at a minimum.
"For Broward County, this is a much stronger storm than Katrina and Rita earlier this year or Frances and Jeanne last year," said Tony Carper, Broward's emergency management director, during a 5:30 p.m. press conference with Mayor Kristin Jacobs and Sheriff Ken Jenne. "None of the storms this year or last year had sustained hurricane-force winds, and I think a lot of people will be unpleasantly surprised by what is in store for us."
Carper said he believes Wilma will hit Broward as a Category 2 storm because it will not have weakened much after making landfall on the west coast of the state. The last time that hurricane-force winds crossed Broward was Irene in 1999, and Carper said Wilma could be as strong as the Category 2 storm Cleo that passed through Broward in 1964.
Weather conditions should begin deteriorating around midnight, with the worst of the storm occurring between dawn and 10 a.m. Wilma will be moving rapidly back out to sea at between 25 and 30 mph, so only between two and five inches of rain is expected.
High wind and rain will continue until midday as Wilma moves off toward the northeast in the Atlantic.
The most serious concern is that of tornadoes. Wilma will collide with a cold front as it crosses Florida, creating a dangerous mix of moist and cool air in a turbulent atmosphere.
Emergency managers compare the possibility to a spring storm that struck central Florida in 1998 and resulted in a dozen major tornadoes and the destruction of a mobile home park in Kissimmee. The last time a major tornado spawned from a hurricane in Broward was during Isabel, another storm that struck the area in 1964.
More than 35,000 residents who live in mobile homes in Broward were ordered to evacuate. Deputies went door to door in mobile home parks urging people to heed the order and handing out identification bracelets to those who didn't. As of Sunday evening, almost 1,000 people had moved into Broward's shelters. That included 112 people in the four homeless shelters and 22 people who took their dogs, cats and birds to the pet-friendly shelter at Millennium Middle School in Tamarac.
Officials are warning residents to pay close attention to television and radio for tornado advisories. If one is approaching, residents should move away from windows and doors and take cover in the strongest, interior point of their home or under heavy furniture.
Port Everglades closed midday Sunday, and Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport will be closed by 11 p.m. Bus service will cease at midnight, and all bridges have been locked down.
County government offices, including the library system, will be closed Monday. School has been canceled for Monday and Tuesday. There will be no garbage pick-up Monday either.
School Superintendent Frank Till said he decided to cancel school for Tuesday as well as Monday because he did not believe there would be enough time to prepare the facilities before school buses would have to leave to pick up children Tuesday morning.
During the evening press conference, Jacobs urged residents to move indoors by dusk and stay there for the duration of the storm. Jacobs noted that the four deaths in South Florida due to Katrina occurred because the people went outside during the storm.
"We are recommending you batten down the hatches and remain inside tonight," Jacobs said.
The problems witnessed in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina were on officials' minds as Wilma approached. Jenne said he has placed school security officers and detectives in uniform and marked cars to beef up street patrols and ensure there will be no looting after Wilma. Also, he said no one should be concerned about their safety at shelters because he has placed extra deputies there as well.
"We will not tolerate anyone who takes advantage of this storm to victimize our residents and businesses," Jenne said.
Tubby
10-23-2005, 08:45 PM
Broward, Palm Beach schools extend closing to Tuesday
Staff reports, Sun-Sentinel
Several institutions are announcing they are also going to be closed through Tuesday:
Both Broward and Palm Beach county schools will be closed both Monday and Tuesday.
Palm Beach Community College has extended its closing through Tuesday.
Florida Atlantic University's classes and normal business operations will be closed through Tuesday. In addition, all programs and offices at the A.D. Henderson University School, FAU High School and the Karen Slattery Child Development Center will be closed through Tuesday.
All Northwood University day and evening classes will be canceled Monday and Tuesday.
Tubby
10-23-2005, 09:27 PM
Looks like my countdown timer and prediction will be close. Now for the bad news if hurricane force winds extend 85 miles Marco to my house in Weston is 79+- miles. So we could start getting hurricane force winds around 5:30 - 6:00 Monday Morning.Rain
I hope everyone is ready:mad:
If you have not found the ticker and countdown timer just click on the logo or the Neighborhood Round Table on the top of each page.
Looks like my countdown timer and prediction will be close. Now for the bad news if hurricane force winds extend 85 miles Marco to my house in Weston is 79+- miles. So we could start getting hurricane force winds around 5:30 - 6:00 Monday Morning.Rain
Sounds like bloody marys for the morning!
Tubby
10-24-2005, 08:06 AM
Lost Internet connection from Advance Cable, TV picture in and out. Now on dial up :mad: .
At 7:00 the eye is approaching the intersection of 75 and SR 29 about 61 miles from my house.
Winds are picking up Rain , just pinned the last garage door. You could feel the wind pushing on the door as I was pinning it.
Tubby
10-24-2005, 09:35 AM